Comments on: Anti-pattern: “End-to-End Process Orchestration”

By: Anatoly Belychook

Anatoly Belychook — Thu, 19 May 2011 14:58:27 +0000

Да, правильно.

By: ISA

ISA — Thu, 19 May 2011 13:14:22 +0000

Сделал опечатку, имел в виду:
“… хореографию надо заменить на межпроцессное взаимодействие (collaboration)?”

By: ISA

ISA — Thu, 19 May 2011 13:08:53 +0000

Правильно ли я понимаю, что с выходом BPMN 2.0 в данной статье оркестровку надо заменить на межпроцессное взаимодействие (collaboration)?

By: Anatoly Belychook

Anatoly Belychook — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:47:26 +0000

Сергей, загляните вот сюда: http://mainthing.ru/ru/item/150/

By: Сергей

Сергей — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:43:34 +0000

Продажи - это не сквозной процесс, как мне кажется, а набор фрагментов различных процессов

By: Anatoly Belychook

Anatoly Belychook — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:51:43 +0000

Alexander

I follow Bruce Silver’s interpretation:
* orchestration = single pool, sequence flow
* choreography = communication between multiple pools, message flow

BPMN 1.1 spec define choreography as “an ordered sequence of B2B message exchanges”. It’s close to your interpretation because B2B situation implies lesser predictability.

Two interpretations diverge on multi-pool processes with pools representing different process instances, not different business entities. And this is exactly the subject of the original post. Under your interpretation, I should have call it “Single pool end-to-end process”. Not a bad idea may be, thank you for the input.

By: AS

AS — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:27:53 +0000

http://improving-bpm-systems.blogspot.com/2008/12/comment-7-on-anti-pattern-end-to-end.html

By: Anatoly Belychook

Anatoly Belychook — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:13:49 +0000

Sorry Alexander, don’t understand you. I believe you get choreography as soon as you draw more than one pool and messages accross them. Please share your interpretation.

By: AS

AS — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:50:55 +0000

http://improving-bpm-systems.blogspot.com/2008/12/comment-4-on-anti-pattern-end-to-end.html

By: Anatoly Belychook

Anatoly Belychook — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:54:15 +0000

Alexander

Of course you diagrammed both choreography and orchestration. The words “branches may go” from your first post are misleading I’m afraid: most people would suppose you mean sequence flow. So it’s my turn to ask you be more accurate