Комментарии к записи: (English) Live Process Analysis & Modeling Experience

Автор: Cristian

Cristian — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:04:45 +0000

I re-read this post today and couldn’t resist telling “thank you”, again!

Автор: Cristian

Cristian — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:27:37 +0000

I was rather thinking of errors which may not be picked up by validation, that case is clear. Let’s say validation accepts integers, but user types in 2 instead of 4. They won’t be caught by any validation. So the only way left is double-checking…But even in that case there may be some handwriting interpreted by double-checker the same way as the other person. In which case…some compensating action (not a compensation event!) would be required, I guess…

Thanks.

Автор: Anatoly Belychook

Anatoly Belychook — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:48:48 +0000

Cristian, either your application (i.e. a web form) is smart enough to check for such errors and in this case the task just wont be completed until the user entered it all right. Nothing to depict on the diagram except an annotation if analyst is eager to pass the validation requirements to a developer.
Or the application can’t do such check - in that case the error introduced by a user will go down the process flow unless not double-checked by someone else.
We don’t consider magic wands, orbs or similar instrument, do we?

Автор: Cristian

Cristian — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:05:54 +0000

Entry error or missing some check that should have been done…I know you will point me to four-eye principle, but I find it so cumbersome to double activities over and over…

Автор: Anatoly Belychook

Anatoly Belychook — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 06:35:09 +0000

Cristian - there are plenty of possible errors, which ones do you have in mind? E.g. there may be a server crash, communication failure or a human performer may enter wrong value in a screen field.

Автор: Cristian

Cristian — Sun, 09 Feb 2014 17:25:16 +0000

Anatoly,

Regarding comment 10 - section 1) …
Would you ignore modeling of errors done by the performers of tasks in the bpmn diagram? Or at least, would you ignore some of them? If so, let’s say you execute the process in a process engine and an error ignored in the diagram model happens. How do you handle that case when it happens? And how do you reenter the normal flow?

Автор: Cristian

Cristian — Wed, 29 Jan 2014 05:12:25 +0000

Thank you, Anatoly.

Автор: Anatoly Belychook

Anatoly Belychook — Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:45:32 +0000

Christian

Maybe the tag BPMN http://mainthing.ru/tag/bpmn/ is what you are looking for?

There is also RSS feed http://mainthing.ru/feed/

Автор: Cristian

Cristian — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:52:57 +0000

Hi Anatoly,

Is there a link to an index of all your blogs/articles/others so I can read everything you posted on your site?

Thank you.

Автор: Cristian

Cristian — Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:38:55 +0000

Thank you, Anatoly. I am a like a vacuum these days, I am trying to absorb BPM(N) knowledge from anywhere I can, but this is my favorite place, by far.

Blog you later,

Cristian